Typical Americain business behavior !

[Rozak]

I'm not going to say much on it since I'm afraid of corrosive bias seeping through from the upper floors, but I just don't think Petroglyph is a credible developer anymore.

[Raitter]

Petro isn't a Major or any Advanced Company anymore. They are simply a hard-boiled group with very far-edge visions to achieve their dreams. But they can only go so far to a certain extent.

They made a agreement with Trion and worked togheter to achieve EoN. It should be successful, so as i know and see it. Only thing that it looked so outdated and old, comparing to Trion Standards. So Trion took EoN back to their chambers of mysteries. And re-developing it from the start of, but not removing what need not to remove. Only improve and design it so it lives to Trions standards and much more brighter for the future.

Thats as far as i know. That Kickstarted, Victory. Is only a Engine originates from Petro. They use that Engine for EoN. It has the same concept, but different approaches. That Game credits more experienced and players who have played longer. Whilst EoN does same, but in a way where you're not majorly more powerful. And can easily avoid PvP and go on other Modes to fight your way to their level and experience.

There's clear differences between both. Though similiar to a limit. We all who is dedicated to Trion and still hopeful to EoN's future. Waiting for it. And so am i. I know i can trust Trion. Cause they'd never put down a baby and not teaching it and making it mature. Its still not ready to impress us fully. But soon enough. Anytime we hear news from them about EoN.

[brownUPStruck]

Thats as far as i know. That Kickstarted, Victory. Is only a Engine originates from Petro. They use that Engine for EoN. It has the same concept, but different approaches.

From what I have understood (and seen though I cannot remember where at the moment so I cannot site reference) Victory is running off of Petro's new engine, and EoN is working on a re-vamped old Petro engine...?

But in totally agreement about same concept different approach.

Edit ++ well after some quick research I did find out I was wrong in my above saying they were two different engines. I saw somewhere that EoN was running off Alamo, but it is the GLYPHX engine (same as Victory)... my mistake

Reference : http://forums.endofnations.com/end-n...html#post17444

[Sunsp0t]

From what I have understood (and seen though I cannot remember where at the moment so I cannot site reference) Victory is running off of Petro's new engine, and EoN is working on a re-vamped old Petro engine...?

But in totally agreement about same concept different approach.

Edit ++ well after some quick research I did find out I was wrong in my above saying they were two different engines. I saw somewhere that EoN was running off Alamo, but it is the GLYPHX engine (same as Victory)... my mistake

Reference : http://forums.endofnations.com/end-n...html#post17444

And I stand by my statement that the GLYPHX engine wouldn't be where it is now without TRIONS inputted money ... but well yeah everyone is entitled to their own opinion , pro petros and con petros alike

[Cyber]

Oh, so EoN didn't use the Alamo engine after all. I guess some had their info wrong...

In any case, as long as EoN survives, I don't care where the engine came from

[HellsingDS]

I'm sorry but I resent anyone who says EoN looks 'dated and old' especially in comparison to Rift... those of us with good graphic cards were able to spend ages exploring each of the maps spotting lots of little details that went into them. In fact when HTL was known as 'fail the line' we'd usually spend each game searching and pointing them out to one another whilst our artillery did all the work... I loved it.

Besides, even if it did look behind the times who cares? We all know gameplay trumps graphic design and most competitive multiplayer games out there are rarely even played on high settings for increased fps...

I think the main issue was that they weren't very happy with some of the finer details like progression (and imo hero units/mercenaries)

[EONMMORTSRUS]

And I stand by my statement that the GLYPHX engine wouldn't be where it is now without TRIONS inputted money ... but well yeah everyone is entitled to their own opinion , pro petros and con petros alike

I totally agree with Sunsp0t!!!

Initially, in 2010, the game was built on Alamo...



In 2011, the game has been translated into a new engine GLYPHX (evolution Alamo)



In the development of the game engine has been invested a lot of money for 3 years!

I'm a fan Petro, but what they are doing is called plagiarism!

They could have come up with a new RTS with a completely new concept and it would be good! But they decided to slightly alter EON changing skins game, but the essence is the same.

In fact it is their right, but this is how it is not fair to the Trion.

I am for a good games, but not disguised clones!

[Pasty]

After watching the Victory gameplay video, the similarities to EoN are quite outstanding. Now it's all making a bit more sense. Here's how I see the situation.

• EoN development is a large money sink. Many years of work for little gain. Who's fault that is doesn't matter.
• Petro falls on hard times due to this and other reasons.
• Trion sees no chance of finishing EoN with Petro, takes over EoN in its entirety.
• Petro, with money troubles and little but a newly developed engine to work with, cobbles together an EoN-like game and asks for crowd funding.

If Victory actually gets funded, I expect ever step in its development to lead it further from EoN.

[TheReDKinGXX]

After watching the Victory gameplay video, the similarities to EoN are quite outstanding. Now it's all making a bit more sense. Here's how I see the situation.

• EoN development is a large money sink. Many years of work for little gain. Who's fault that is doesn't matter.
• Petro falls on hard times due to this and other reasons.
• Trion sees no chance of finishing EoN with Petro, takes over EoN in its entirety.
• Petro, with money troubles and little but a newly developed engine to work with, cobbles together an EoN-like game and asks for crowd funding.

If Victory actually gets funded, I expect ever step in its development to lead it further from EoN.

oh wait that was "victory" in the video ? i thought its eon in medium settings ? jk

but yeah man they are truelly just remaking eon in another name
and got to be honest they worked many many years on this game and they bearly came out with a single thing

althought what im interested in are the west wood old school boys are they in petro or trion now ? (victory or eon)? coz i got to be honest the name it self draggs me in

i guess eon got a 2 enemies right now Victory and CNC lets see who wins

[Raitter]

It was outdated and old. Because its Systems wasn't up to Standards. Again...it was in Beta. If it were in Open and they'd manage to keep the Servers up to see how many players played it. It'd be less then expected.

Reasons alone for "Outdated and old" was not of cosmetics. Pay closer attention to the game ITSELF. This is why it became a money sink. It didn't achieve what it was planned for. If Petro waited to make it, gave the Engine and let Trion test it however they wanted. They'd make a bit or more fortune out of it. However...Petro got greedy and jiggly. They created Victory to make up for their mistake. A slight hope to get back some money they lost.

Also. Redking. Thats a ******ed attitude. CnC NEVER competed against Trion. And never will. Cause Trion gives no **** about EA's Competition in a Arena. Trion makes their Games to satisfy customers and make money on the sides if Customers are satisfied and wants more. Having Victory from Petro, it won't compete against EoN. Cause they'll lose immediately, once Trion gets EoN starting its motors. Why? Petro has no idea where to go to when it comes to deciding how to approach their competition wisely. So no one wins either way.

Again. I won't say i am right or wrong. But i've done tests and analysis on the game. I love it, cause it makes me feel so excited for whatever reasons unknown. It is epic. But it sure needs a ton more work to it. I have nothing against it if it start from a certain point and improves over time. Trions done that before, and succeeds as a "Regular" basis.

I gotta hand it to them. They sure know usually what they are doing, and are a intriguing bunch of people i'd hang out anytime if i could. I still miss EoN and messing around in it.